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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:58 am
by Firuweata
I believe that is a matter of opinion, in a way. However in a way it is true.
If over the course of history, a certain event occurs over and over again, such as dropping an object and watching it fall approximately 9.8 meters per second per second (no, that's not a typo, that's how you measure acceleration), than it is relativitly safe to say that by dropping a random object, it too, will fall to Earth at approximately 9.8 meters per second per second.
However, If one day we wake up and the unlikely event the hemisphere of Earth opposite you is gone, and no one in your hemisphere knows about it, and you drop something, than the object dropped will most likely fall to Earth at approximately 4.9 meters per second per second. This result will come at such a surprise to everyone that they would have to wind up re-writing the "Laws of Earth" all over again from scratch.
So in a way, yes, science is just how intellectual beings view the universe. But in a way, it is the laws of the universe that have to remain constant in order for it to stay out of a state of chaos...
...Please forgive me for being such a nerd
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:01 am
by Jishdefish
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:08 am
by Firuweata
Oh well, can't blame a guy for trying to get it
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:50 am
by 56
i get it, dont worry, im sort of a nerd to.
the universe can change and be in chaos with no problem, but only on a small scale. Quantum mechanics says that on an atomic level, things are very chaotic and always changing
Yet the Theory of Relativity says the universe is non-changing, and always constant, but thats on a large scale, dealing with planets and gravity.
your right, if earths gravitational acceleration changed from 9.81 m/s, then things would be very different.
the thing is, quantum mechanics and the theroy of relativity are such opposets, scientists can explain how they work together when it comes to black holes and the big bang where things are small and dense. We know they work together, just not how, yet.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:56 am
by Firuweata
Chaos on a small level and not on a large level, ehh?
Ever see what happens when they split an atom?
BOOM!!! If that's not chaos on a larger scale, than I don't know what is.
Now lets say something chaotic occurs on a small level where a group of atoms are grouped together extremely close, lets say, a dwarf star. The chain reaction splitting just ONE atom on something that dense could affect the entire universe, quite possibly destroying most of it...
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:06 am
by 56
quantum mechanics says on an atomic level, things are always chaotic. its true that you can change things on an atmic level to make things on a larger scale chaotic. but most of the time it's just electrons jumping around, and molicules being created. splitting an atom is not a normal thing, atleast on earth.
have you ever read The Elegant Universe by Brian Green, or watched NOVA: The Elegant Universe?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:07 am
by Firuweata
No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night...
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:14 am
by 56
ohh, ok, guess that ends this then.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:23 am
by Firuweata
Yes, it, does...
Speaking of the over-use of commas, Weekly World News says there is an organization in Germany that wants to ban commas...
While I'm talking about Weekly World News, there's going to be a quiz over dragons in next week's issue...
Just thought I'd give you guys a fair warning
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:28 am
by 56
didnt know my use of commas was too much
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:07 am
by Firuweata
Dude, it's Weekly World News. They give more bull s*** than even I do!!!
So don't EVER take them seriously...
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:27 am
by Chalgrish
well, with on hemisphere of the earth gone, that would mean that the rest of the Earth would naturally form into a ball again, causing mass chaos and death. And splitting one atom is hardly enough to cause a nuclear explosion. It's the chain reaction that occurs that causes the fire.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:58 pm
by Jishdefish
I think that venus once had a sociaty like ours, but it kinda got too dependent on fossil fuels and eventually cooked themselves alive with the toxic emissions!! Of course this could have been on a much grander scale
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:02 pm
by Chalgrish
Venus has no evidence of water that is relatively neutral, thus no society could have existed.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:10 pm
by Jishdefish
O-kay.... you obviosly havnt read much on venus; the probe they sent got fried after a brief moment in the atmosphere the probe actually was melting when it touched down; Now how could they test for water in those sorts of conditions!!! So HAH
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:15 pm
by wut2say
oww..... soo much science. my head hurts please just drop it
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:53 pm
by Firuweata
I Just DARE Someone To Out-Nerd 56 Or Myself!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:55 pm
by wut2say
ok
sprechen sie deutch?
isch sprect eine beshin deutch
hallo isch bein wut2say und das ist meine "proficient dragon"
wo hertz du?
wer compts du?
isch compt oust kansas
was is du name?
isch bein kline miene hearts ist streine sonemon drien vonen all sesu aliene
das ist meine deutch
wut did i say?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:34 pm
by 56
i think thats german, right? i tried to translate it, but not all of it worked.
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:30 pm
by wut2say
it may not be proper grammer...... but....... yeah it is
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:55 pm
by Firuweata
I said out nerd, not out German...
Close, but no cigar. Try using large scientific terms, such as astronomically inbalanced. No matter WHAT you say, it'll make you sound smart. That, and physics and chemistry being your favorite subjects. That helped me out A LOT...
What is/ was everybody's favorite subject???
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:39 pm
by 56
my favorite is physics. what i really like is the theory of relativity and quatum mechanics.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:00 pm
by Firuweata
I think quantum physics is definitly my favorite branch of physics...
By the way, 56, have you ever read any of Stephen Hawking's books? He is very intelligent in the field of astroquantum physics...
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:19 pm
by 56
i have read one of his books, A Brief History of Time, which i really enjoyed. when i have more time this summer i plan to read some other books on physics, i hope to learn more in depth about quantum mechanics and the theory of realivity and the string theory.
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:48 pm
by Jishdefish
This is great some of the greatest young minds(including myself) are interested in dragons, YES my dream has come true